Second Autopsy Concludes Floyd Died From Asphyxia

Doctor Michael Baden has concluded the independent autopsy of George Floyd. It has been determined conclusively that his death was caused by asphyxia while in police custody.

9 thoughts on “Second Autopsy Concludes Floyd Died From Asphyxia”

  1. That’s exactly right! Procedure was not followed. It was excessive force and Floyd was not fighting them. It was not a matter of an officer defending himself. There are good people officers still out there. To say all are racists is putting them in a box. We can’t slap labels on people based on professions, race or religion. 💜

  2. As for my own two cents about the autopsy… Both autopsies are questionable on some level in my book, and even if the official one is 100% accurate, it doesn’t absolve the cop at all.

    Here’s the thing… We can argue position of the leg on George Floyd’s neck (side vs windpipe) and what secondary health issues MAY have been a factor. Was it racism or just rage? It makes for interesting arm chair quarterbacking and fine tuning of police procedure MAYBE.

    Ultimately, splitting hairs like that doesn’t matter though. As I said in a reply to one of the comments, if the officers had followed procedure and cuffed George Floyd immediately after he was restrained, he would VERY likely still be alive. Doesn’t matter if secondary factors contributed or where exactly on his neck that leg was.

  3. The first autopsy declared George Floyd’s death as “natural” sort of trying to exonerate murderous cops. I am surprised in such a messed up system, how come second autopsy was performed and on whose orders? Seems something fishy already.

    1. The family ordered and paid for a second autopsy by an independent medical examiner. The same thing was done in the Stephon Clark case in Sacramento CA. after the family claimed the official autopsy was a complete fabrication. I blogged about that case ages ago since there was so much disinformation being put out by ALL sides in that case.

      1. Thanks Silk Cords for clarifying that. Having a family or friends is the best thing in these difficult times where your own state or government fails you. Even after George Floyd is dead, these hypocrites did not even leave his dead body to mess up with. He is a true martyr and my soul testifies to the coming revolution in USA which is going to good for masses and horrible for those stupid and double-speak “few” who call themselves our leaders.

  4. Yeah pretty clear the guy was way out of line. I still like to withhold judgment until every bit of the thing comes out and I still, no matter what, hold Floyd at least a little responsible if he was passing counterfeit money or any time they are breaking the law. They are not completely “innocent” in what transpires even if it’s wrong and shouldn’t be tolerated. And they are always portrayed as if they were just minding their own business, peace loving victims of the police. That is pretty rare, though it happens. Nobody has said if he was actually doing that. That does not mean the cop shouldn’t be prosecuted; but it should also send a message that you shouldn’t break the law. These policemen have to make split second decisions sometimes and they are afraid for their own lives (not in this case),but just generally. It takes a really steady mind to be a good cop. But it’s like these people who cheat on their wives and do all these despicable things–then the wife ends up dead and it’s hard to separate that out from the guy’s character. Here’s a thought: don’t cheat, lie, do drugs, pass bad checks and things will go better for you. And if you don’t pass counterfeit money, you’d have a better chance of being alive now. But perhaps he didn’t really do that–no follow up on that yet.

    1. My dad was a cop long enough to collect two pensions and four of my martial arts instructors’ day jobs were as cops. I’m normally as pro-cop as you can be. 🙂 This is a pretty clear cut case if abuse of authority though. First, nobody I’ve read has established if Mr Floyd was KNOWINGLY passing counterfeit bills or outright counterfeiting (printing) them. There’s a new detector machine on the market every other month because counterfeiters have gotten so good. It’s easy to accidentally get stuck with a bad bill nowadays and not know it.

      Counterfeiting also isn’t a violent crime, so heavy use of force isn’t justified. That’s not opinion, that’s the book. NOW, **IF** he had resisted arrest, that’s a different matter, UP TO THE POINT THEY HAD HIM UNDER CONTROL. At that point, the officers were legally and morally obligated to cuff him and put him in a car.

      It doesn’t matter if George Floyd had secondary factors that contributed to his death. If the officers involved had followed proper procedure, there’s every reason to believe George Floyd would be alive today.

      I *will* agree this MAY not be a clear cut case of INTENT to murder George Floyd. The cop may just wanted to pin him down a while and teach him a lesson for whatever reason (rage, racism, etc…) At the very least this cop should be looking at second degree murder and civil rights violation charges though.

      Again, I support law enforcement, but that doesn’t mean they’re always in the right. People that love and support good cops should want to see the bad apples removed from the job too. 🙂

    2. Are you serious? Anyone could pass a bad bill. You can get change at a store and it contain a bad bill. Unknowingly. Does that make you guilty? Your statement is justification for what happened to him. There is no justification action for what was done.

      I’m not going to say that every incident we hear about is the same. It’s not. Each situation holds different circumstances. Officers have the right to defend theirselves. They should. But Floyd is a clear cut case where he was subdued. No weapons. Wasn’t fighting them. He was subdued. There is NO JUSTIFICATION for what was done.

      Yes officers do have to make split second decisions and sometimes it works out great and sometimes it doesn’t. This is not one such case. He held his knee on his neck for over nine minutes. Bystanders were even pleading with the officer to get off of him and told him he was unconscious and he continued as he was.

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